And it only took a little over 200 years to fail. But wait, we have not failed yet, we simply dropped the ball (thank you Democrats) but last time this happened we made a come back and became tronger than before. The way i see it, this will happen again, but not under Obama. Believe what you want Lad, mate, boy, comrade, amigo, etc. In the end Americans are not Europeans and our values are different than yours. This foolish notion that Europe wins and the US loses is childish since we don't have the same values. If these people like Europe so much, why are they still here?

200 years to fail, not sure hat you mean. The original conservative freemarket ideals you had were what Britain had before the introduction of the welfare state, so you have had British ideals up to now.

  The main difference is that the UK turned to a welfare state after WWII, the rest of europe followed but the USA did not.

  People on the right [like the bloggers trolling my posts] claim that it is ok to leave the poor to rot as yanks get higher incomes by not having a welfare state.

  Well as has been proven this is simply not true as americas wages have fallen well behind countries with strong welfare states and universal health care. Most new democracies follow the European ideal and have a welfare state almost always with a universal health care program.

  I can't think of one new democracy that has followed america and refused to have universal health care.

  As Obama wants universal health care, to tax the rich and give to the poor while keeping a strong economy and making access to higher education more easy then the next president of the USA clearly wanst to become more European as well.

  So yes the Eurpean ideals are the influentional ones today, NOT the tax the poor to benefit the rich, no health care low wage USA model.

  I am sure you right wingers will try to twist or insult your way to refuting my poitns but they still hold I am afraid.

And this right here is why you are the new clueless one on this site.

And you believe it's because the Gov't imposed this on people, not that the people wanted it this way? There's a reason it's called a difference because this is what people wanted.

Hmm, why create an article, leave it open for posting on a site where the majority (notice how it's not everyone) are of Republican or Conservative views and then call them trolls when they comment on your article? Sounds to me like you are not looking to debate but simply to start fights and arguments which is pretty childish to me. Keep in mind my first comment did not insult you in any way (no name calling, no cursing, no death threats) yet your first post it to call me a troll. Great debating skills.

BTW, considering all the charities in this country, all the shelters, all the Gov't help that currently exist, all the opportunities out there, the only ones I can think of that should be in such poor conditions are those who are physically or mentally unable to do so. We may have a lot of poor people, based on standards of not having more than 1 or 2 TVs in the house, but our poor people are in a way some of the richest poor people in the world. Keep in mind, I am one of those poor people so it's kinda stupid to think I don't care about people like me.

You've been disproven several times already on this, it's not my fault you refuse to understand. You have the right to believe what you want. Wow, look at that, an American value shared with you.

Ah, there's a reason the people that founded this country left Europe. Obama can want many things, that does not mean it will work. Maybe you should do some research and realize the Democrats have been fighting for the little guy for decades and have yet to solve any of the problems they claim they will solve.

I doesn't matter dude, this is the US not the EU. Your opinions are just that, opinions. You wanna change things? Make yourself a citizen of the US and vote. Otherwise, all you can do is excercize your right to post your own BS online about a country you don't live in, don't contribute to, are not a citizen of (most likely) and really don't give a dam about. You like Europe so much, keep it and why not convince some of these Obamabots to move over there and try out your "incredible" country. If I don't like a place, I move.

You came to the wrong place to sell crazy, if Obama wins and Americans do get a taste of Europe, I think they'll gag. Keep socialism in Europe if you like, cause once the US opens the package and gets a whiff they see just how much it stinks. It will just serve to wake up the 50 -60% that don't vote.

Hum... there are no "european values". Europe is even less a unified block than America. I think it's funny how people in America are trying to make a America vs Europe dichotomy of values. I guess it appeals to your nation's ego

NO, he is correct.  Europe has a socialism mentality.  Probably brought on by the fact it was born (modern europe) of the old Monarchy where King (or queen) took care of all the serfs.

America was born in rebellion to that model.  There is a definite difference in mindset and outlook.  This is not saying one is better (we can get into that on another blog), just different.

  I live in the EU and this article is about the EU. The article shows how European ideals on running a society have prevailed with new eastern Europeans eager to become part of Europe and the new president of the USA also eager to adopt European ideals.

  We see all new democracies adopting a universal health care and higher tax on the rich than the poor, basically sharing wealth.

  This sharing of wealth has been argued by the old right wing that countries like the USA would have more individual wealth by ignoring their poor, this has been proven to be wrong.

  Freedom, equality, dignity, strong economy and social justice is prevailing against the right wing view of freedom, large poverty, low tax on the rich and low paid poor.

  ps.

  The poor in the USA are the poorest of any developed country. This was shown is minimum wage and homeless numbers. If someone disagrees then provide a link to back up these claims.

 The average wage in the USA is LOWER than the wealthiest countries in Europe even when working more hours per year. Again the AWI has shown this and has NOT been proven wrong. It stands.

  Ignoring facts and making up claims should be left to other anti European blogs, not mine. Either show a link or stay away, thanks.

  Strong economy with social justice. Family time via paided leave, access to higher education to the poor and redistribution of wealth.

  The spread of democracy is also a goal of the EU. The EU model is the current accepted model for democracy world wide. Not the USA model.

  Obama to my knowledge is attempting to copy these EU values and it seems he is winning. McCain is against these values and seems to be losing.

  Your points are mere claims and are not backed up by anything of any merit I am afraid.

Dashing Prince, the author of this article, isn't an American.

  Spend more time reading the article and thinking of a reply than reading somones profile.  Make a point or leave my blog, thank you.

Yeah it's tough having only 3 TV's. a used BMW, and eating a Mc Donald's every day. It make one really want to cry.

If the US becomes European, who is left to liberate us after we all surrender at the first sign of trouble?

Quite a polite response to the site's owner, must be European values.

Funny how you say that about my cokmment while ignoring the creator of this article. Anyways, DrGuy did a good job correcting you.

New President? Kinda Premature there don't you think Lad? Just because our timezones are different due to being on different parts of the world doesn't mean elections over here have already passed. I want to believe you are smarter than that.

I am however curious if Obama is so enthusiastic about European ideals, why is he running here and not there? Or why is he not living there at all. BTW, has Obama ever truly been to Europe? And I don't mean a 2 week city to city outing, I mean living there for long periods of time. He doesn't know crap about Europe so I don't see how he can claim to want something he has never truly experienced. But then it's not like experience is a necesity for Obama to win, only for Palin.

I can garantee you, give every working American 1 million dollars and then tell them you want to redistribute their wealth to those who don't work. How much you wanna bet they will all say in one unified voice "Kiss my ass"?

I guess you haven't figured out that the person you are talking to is the owner of the site. If this kind of stupidity is what European ideals creates than I can see why Obama wants it. It would make it easier to make people believe you wanna help them while never actually doing it.

I disagree. Yes, the US system does seem to be failing (partially), but it's not like Europe can hold up say the French way of things as a shining example either - in France you get great benefits, it's hard to lose your job, there are improved public services, etc. etc., but there is a cost - for example unemployment has been much higher in European countries like France than those adopting a more free market approach like the US or UK. It's also not like these countries are currently doing well either - they're already either in recession or heading for recession, just as with the US. Meanwhile European banks have also fallen foul of the credit crunch, with for example UBS (Swiss) being one of the worst offenders.

Also while you mention the possible movement of the US to more 'European' values (e.g. entertaining the prospect of universal healthcare or similar proposals), Europe has also been moving more towards US values in some areas, by looking to try and improve free market principles such as competition in some places (at least they were talking of such things in the EU over the last few years; no doubt the recent crisis will put such attempts on the back burner or destroy them completely).

Maybe, but it's looking increasingly unlikely that McCain has even a chance of beating Obama, and hence it's not too premature to start considering how things might be with a new president Obama (even if it is a bit presumptious to say he's certain to be the president).

  I would have guessed because Obama is American, you didn't know that?

  To my knowledge Obama is ahead in the polls and he wants to redistribute wealth. It seems that your own country men are not supporting you at the moment.

  It is far ruder to insult a guest, those are Euroepan values.

  Free market values and competition are European, we add fairness to the mix. American values are free market without the fairness. I do not see any EU country getting rid of universal healthcare or lowering the minimum wage.

 Europe has been liberated by the British before we would do it again I am sure.

 However both the UK and France are nuclear powers so the EU is at no risk of invasion.